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Post by jenaye1393lotr on Oct 5, 2005 14:27:17 GMT -5
the book is awesome but i really think that in the book arwen should be in it more. she is not in it very much. what do you think  |
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Post by Nosteruionwen on Oct 9, 2005 8:37:10 GMT -5
i personally have not read the books (shame on me!!!)maybe ur right........
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Post by Scornful Pen on Oct 18, 2005 16:18:54 GMT -5
lol not really, I mean where would he put her? In the book Glorfindel (most of you have probably never heard of him...) is the one who took Frodo 'across the border' and where else would she fit in? J.R.R. Tolkien had alot to write in the book, he wasn't focusing on Aragorn's private life, he needed to get the fellowship into rivendell, do the council and get their butts out of there and on the road. Rivendell was sort of one of those places that are created by the writer to explain something to the reader and not really be focused on. Whoa...that sounded like a rant, sorry didn't mean it as one.
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Post by Elensar Itarilde on Oct 22, 2005 9:00:40 GMT -5
i wish glorfindel was in the book, i mean arwen is in the movie a decent amount without the crossing of the ford, she's in a lot of dreams...  |
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Post by Scornful Pen on Oct 26, 2005 9:17:54 GMT -5
yeah...it annoyed me...well placed, but grating at times *envious*
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Post by Elly cant remember my password on Oct 29, 2005 21:56:03 GMT -5
Lol, I liked your rant Betsy..... Just to add a little more... Remember all that Tolkien lived over 100 yeard ago and wrote this like during the early 1900s or late 1800s (I don't remeber so if I have this all wrong, please forgive me...lol) so stories then weren't written liket ehy are today. LOTR wasn't focused really on a romance, I mean there were so many plots and stories (including romance) going on throughout the whole story, but it wasn't focused on romance. Also, Tolkien did mention Aragorn's romance w/ Arwen, even if it was subtle. I didn't like how they changed Glorifindel's Ford scene to Arwen in the movie, It really doesn't make sence for her to do that, changes what Tolkien meant for the characters I think. Cuase she was after all Elrond's daughter, a She-elf...it was the guys who whent out and did the fighting, not the women. Elrond is afraid of her staying in Middle Earth, he wouldn't have sent her out by herself to rescue Frodo from 9 Ringwraith....lol (actually Elrond had no problem w/ Arwen and ARagorn being together like they displayed in the movies but neway). Also, Arwen is in the books quite a bit, just not int he main storyline, like there's the whole story of her and ARagorn in the apendix of ROTK.
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Post by Scornful Pen on Oct 31, 2005 1:00:52 GMT -5
Gotta read that appendix *smacks wrist* bad speed-reading blondie. And it was wrote in the 50s, he was born in 1892. And luff, just click the "Forgot your password?" link on the login page  Actually no I beg to differ. She is introduced in the first one at the party: "In the middle if the table, against the woven cloths upon the wall, was a chair under a canopy, and there sar a lady fair to look upon, and so like was sge in the form of womanhood to Elrond that Frodo guessed that she was one of his close kindred. Young she was and yet not so. The braids of her dark hair were touched by no frost; her white arms and clear face were flawless and smooth, and the light of the stars were bright in her eyes, grey as cloudless night, and thought and knowledge were in her glance, as one who has known many things that years bring. Above her brow her head was covered with a cap of silver lace netted with small gems; glittering white; but her soft grey raiment had no ornament save a girdle of leaves wrought in silver. SO it was that Frodo so whom few mortals had yet seen; Arwen, daughter of Elrond..." p. 221 of the second book of the Fellowship of the Ring. And then in the last book when it shows her and Aragorn getting married and living happily. Then it mentions her giving advice to frodp |
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Post by fatalbeauty on Feb 1, 2006 12:51:17 GMT -5
i think that Glorfindel shouldveg otten Frodo.
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Post by krillball6 on Feb 1, 2006 13:28:08 GMT -5
I haven't read all the books yet and I don't plain to...I don't like the way Tolkien writes...WAY too much detail.
But I have heard of Glorfindel and I think he should of gotten Frodo too...I didn't like Arwen in the movies. She was better in the books (from what I got to read).
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Post by Scornful Pen on Feb 1, 2006 13:53:48 GMT -5
Tolkien's style reminds me very much of the way the Bible was wrote. But I still like it; his style and morals are something that modern writer's like
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Post by fatalbeauty on Feb 2, 2006 14:05:34 GMT -5
i like the way Tolkien writes!
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Post by fatalbeauty on Feb 15, 2006 17:18:36 GMT -5
I haven't read all the books yet and I don't plain to...I don't like the way Tolkien writes...WAY too much detail.
But I have heard of Glorfindel and I think he should of gotten Frodo too...I didn't like Arwen in the movies. She was better in the books (from what I got to read). think about how much harder it would have been to make the movies if he hadnt put in so much detail? he explained the clothes made sure there was specific colors and gave details on looks. i personally like the way he writes but i think it helped alot in making the movies. |
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Post by Scornful Pen on Feb 15, 2006 22:52:35 GMT -5
yes, I agree; you never have trouble picturing where they are or what they're doing. But it still gives you a challenge.
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Post by Elensar Itarilde on Sept 16, 2006 15:14:21 GMT -5
yes it does
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Actually no I beg to differ. She is introduced in the first one at the party: